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hagel? >> you know i saw that information today also. that is more and more concerning. >> you can't take money from a terrorist organization and come from the united states senate and ask for a vote, can you? >> i am very troubled by it. >> i am very troubled by it, it being chuck hagel's imaginary connection to the organization, on a bright dot server, and apparently in rand paul's mind. that is who gets to vote to confirm the defense secretary, very troubled by this terrorist organization that he heard about in a chat room somewhere. don't feel so bad, rush, every country's got them, we just give them more power than most countries do. republicans filibustered chuck hagel's nomination yesterday, that has never happened before, no cabinet nominee has ever been blocked by a filibuster, we have been hit by meteors, but this was never done, now the senate is in recess, the confirmation will probably happen in a week and a half, unless of course we have to hear rand paul chair hearings on the birth certificate of the president, or somethin
hagel? >> you know i saw that information today also. that is more and more concerning. >> you can't take money from a terrorist organization and come from the united states senate and ask for a vote, can you? >> i am very troubled by it. >> i am very troubled by it, it being chuck hagel's imaginary connection to the organization, on a bright dot server, and apparently in rand paul's mind. that is who gets to vote to confirm the defense secretary, very troubled by this...
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why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq. but it immediately becomes about vietnam. it's as how they're talking about. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder which of course mccain and hagel both served in. when mccain talks about iraq, he only wants to talk about it from the surge on, it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count. and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not. the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here he is, joy, why don't you respond to mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle. he wouldn't let go of the question of the surge. back again to the old war. >> will you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge being th
why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq. but it immediately becomes about vietnam. it's as how they're talking about. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder which of course mccain and hagel both served in. when mccain talks about iraq, he only wants to talk about it from the surge on, it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count....
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one of them i think is senator chuck hagel. >> john mccain and chuck hagel were so close that in 2000, when john mccain realized that he was not going to get the presidential nomination, when john mccain decided he had to give up that bitterly fought nomination battle, the person his campaign put out to speak to the press the day he made his decision to withdraw was his dear friend, old chuck. >> two aides tell nbc news that the arizona senator will announce a suspension of his quest for the white house. back in arizona after his crushing defeat on super tuesday mccain called supporters to thank them. >> we're glad to be home. >> nebraska senator chuck hagel, who spoke to mccain three times yesterday, believes mccain will stay in the republican party. >> he understands the big picture here. >> as you can tell from looking at this footage, as you can tell specifically from the evolution of the eye bags and the hairdos over time, that whole thing between chuck hague sxl john mccain was a long while ago. chuck hagel as john mccain's campaign co-chair, as the top of his short list for def
one of them i think is senator chuck hagel. >> john mccain and chuck hagel were so close that in 2000, when john mccain realized that he was not going to get the presidential nomination, when john mccain decided he had to give up that bitterly fought nomination battle, the person his campaign put out to speak to the press the day he made his decision to withdraw was his dear friend, old chuck. >> two aides tell nbc news that the arizona senator will announce a suspension of his...
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the next day, which is tuesday, he rebuked his colleague ted cruz for his criticism of hagel. >> hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country and no one on this committee in any way should impugn his character or his integrity. >> we're going to get to some of cruz's statements in the next segment. tuesday night, hours matter, mccain introduced a new wrinkle with senators graham and ayotte. he wrote a letter to the white house requesting more information about the white house did during the benghazi attack. he told foreign policy magazine, quote, we need to know what the president's conversations were. i would vote no on cloture on thursday unless the information is provided. by tuesday, actually by yesterday, almost every day of the week he's changed his mind, the white house responded to his satisfaction but still didn't vote for cloture. still wouldn't bring this matter up to a vote. here's his latest. let's watch. >> there are still questions outstanding. i believe that senators have the right to have those questions answered. senator from south carolina and senator from ne
the next day, which is tuesday, he rebuked his colleague ted cruz for his criticism of hagel. >> hagel is an honorable man. he has served his country and no one on this committee in any way should impugn his character or his integrity. >> we're going to get to some of cruz's statements in the next segment. tuesday night, hours matter, mccain introduced a new wrinkle with senators graham and ayotte. he wrote a letter to the white house requesting more information about the white...
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. >>> and delaying the vote on chuck hagel. we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to them what is the lasting image that you're going to have of this endeavor. >> well, it's very clear, they're very glad to be off that ship and on terra firma. people were along the ralgs cheering when it come to dock. most said that the living conditions after that engine fire just got increasingly worse and became unbearable. maybe said the worst time was right after the engine fire because they didn't know what was going on. they hadn't been fully informed and that scared them. as we heard at the beginning of the p
. >>> and delaying the vote on chuck hagel. we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama,...
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when we return, i'm sure chuck hagel will have enough votes to be confirmed. other senators have reasonable questions, i mean reasonable. >> but you're not a yes vote for your old friend? >> no. i don't believe he is qualified. but i don't believe that we should hold up his nomination any further. >> safe to say hagel and mccain families won't be sharing a presidents' day picnic today. officials at the white house are raising concerns that the lag in seating the president's cabinet picks could hurt the country. >> between john brennan and chuck hagel we want to make sure we have those guys sitting in the chairs working. i don't want there to have been something missed because of this hang up in washington. >>> also in washington, tens of thousands of people rallied yesterday in opposition to the proposed keystone pipeline. the demonstrators called on the president to reject the plan. the $5.3 billion project could carry crude oil over 1,000 miles from canada to the gulf coast. with thousands of jobs hanging in the balance, the permitting decision rests in john
when we return, i'm sure chuck hagel will have enough votes to be confirmed. other senators have reasonable questions, i mean reasonable. >> but you're not a yes vote for your old friend? >> no. i don't believe he is qualified. but i don't believe that we should hold up his nomination any further. >> safe to say hagel and mccain families won't be sharing a presidents' day picnic today. officials at the white house are raising concerns that the lag in seating the president's...
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does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has really frayed relations with many members in his own party because of the stances he took in iraq and on other issues. remember, tamron, a lot of these republican senators who voted against him didn't serve with chuck hagel. it's a very new, younger republican conference. they really only know him from the anti-iraq positions that he took, as well as some of the other thing he's did, such as endorsing deb fisher's opponent. >> to that point, roger, the senator was on msnbc earlier today. here what's he said. it has nothing to do with the personal issues laid out by senator mccain. let me play it. >> this doesn't have anything to do with a grudge. this has something to do with picking the best person to be the leader of the largest defense organization in the world. he's not the right guy for dod. he's well to the left
does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has really frayed relations with many members in his own party because of the stances he took in iraq and on other issues. remember, tamron, a lot of these republican senators who voted against him didn't serve with chuck hagel. it's a very new, younger republican conference. they really...
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the fact that these organizations don't exist only makes it more suspicious that chuck hagel has been tied to them. what else is he hiding that hasn't happened? is he a member of the al qaeda kids club? what about the muslim brotherhood or the muslim sisterhood of the traveling pans or ties to the dead poets society. whienld are they dead? do they know the too much about benghazi? president obama, you must withdrawal hagel's nomination or you'll lose the supplyiorlyin sy moderate republican, another group that doesn't exist. >> after that brouhaha, it looks like hagel has enough votes to get confirmed next week. next we welcome republican louie gohmert. he's sounding the conspiracy alarm bell. take a guess. is it about the government coming to take your guns away oar another warning that shari'a law is taking over? >> it's for our protection and the founders' quotes make that very, very clear and including against a government that would run amok, you know. we've got some people that think shari'a law ought to be the law of the land, forget the constitution. but the guns are there. >>
the fact that these organizations don't exist only makes it more suspicious that chuck hagel has been tied to them. what else is he hiding that hasn't happened? is he a member of the al qaeda kids club? what about the muslim brotherhood or the muslim sisterhood of the traveling pans or ties to the dead poets society. whienld are they dead? do they know the too much about benghazi? president obama, you must withdrawal hagel's nomination or you'll lose the supplyiorlyin sy moderate republican,...
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chuck hagel's nomination is held up. the expectation is he'll ultimately be confirmed but bill cohen said something this week to politico that caught my attention that does underline the problems that hagel could have as defense secretary. he said it's going to put him in a difficult position once he gets there. those resentments will weigh around. i think it's tragic what is happening and i think it's shameful. if he is confirmed, is' weaker defense secretary and is that something that weighs on the president's mind? >> no, he is not going to be a weaker defense secretary. he will be a great defense secretary. he volunteered to go to vietnam. heavily decorated when he was there. well performing when he was there. the last four years as the president chairman of the president intelligence advisory board in the senate where he is a leading republican senator. he is always done the hard work and made it look easy and exactly what he did. how is he going to work with republicans, john mccain who will be coming up in a coupl
chuck hagel's nomination is held up. the expectation is he'll ultimately be confirmed but bill cohen said something this week to politico that caught my attention that does underline the problems that hagel could have as defense secretary. he said it's going to put him in a difficult position once he gets there. those resentments will weigh around. i think it's tragic what is happening and i think it's shameful. if he is confirmed, is' weaker defense secretary and is that something that weighs...
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, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. but i'll -- >> the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments and -- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective. but if we review the record a little bit -- >> will you please answer the question? were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge being -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. i would like the answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elabor
, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. but i'll -- >> the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments and -- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the...
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secondly, with regard to the hagel nomination, unfortunately, chuck hagel is dealing with his own poor performance as a nominee now. all the way back to your original question. there are many people in the democratic party who don't agree either there are many people in the democratic party who are in disagreement right now on what too do about gun control legislation. on the issue of immigration specifically, i think the reason jo john mccain answered the way did he is because eight senators, four democrats and four republicans, have come together and put together a delicately balanced compromise that will pass. what will fail is either the right in congress or president obama in the white house try and push it too far one way or another to win points. then it's gonna come crashing down. that's, i think what john mccain meant. >> how does the president deal with the republican party he is now dealing with? >> i don't know. i think a lot -- everything here makes sense what we are talking about, because we are being reasonable here. we want to have an immigration bill. i think that's --
secondly, with regard to the hagel nomination, unfortunately, chuck hagel is dealing with his own poor performance as a nominee now. all the way back to your original question. there are many people in the democratic party who don't agree either there are many people in the democratic party who are in disagreement right now on what too do about gun control legislation. on the issue of immigration specifically, i think the reason jo john mccain answered the way did he is because eight senators,...
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president, don't pick chuck hagel. he is not the right guy for d.o.d. he is well to the left of the policies of the obama administration during the first four years. so basically here's the problem. there has been a bipartisan mainstream support for national security, for our middle east policy dating back to 1978 with jimmy carter for israel, for our approach to iran, and chuck hagel has made a career out of being outside of that mainstream. engaging in hyperbole and all sorts of edgy statements. now we're to believe that he is part of the great mainstream. i just don't believe that. we're saying we need more time for information. it's not right to report the candidate on tuesday, file cloture the next day and say somehow we have to close this thing out two days after the report. >> which is didn't didn't -- >> we had found other speeches the other day that had not been disclosed. >> which is consistent with republicans' request to put the vote on hold is what you are saying earlier on. >> you had laid out your thinking fairly quickly in an op ed in po
president, don't pick chuck hagel. he is not the right guy for d.o.d. he is well to the left of the policies of the obama administration during the first four years. so basically here's the problem. there has been a bipartisan mainstream support for national security, for our middle east policy dating back to 1978 with jimmy carter for israel, for our approach to iran, and chuck hagel has made a career out of being outside of that mainstream. engaging in hyperbole and all sorts of edgy...
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earlier this week we found out why some republicans thought were asking whether chuck hagel had ties to a secretive group called friends of hamas. what started as a sarcastic joke by a guy. it turned into a serious feature on a right wing website and then caught on from there. here's steve colbert. >> friends of hamas is even worse than it sound us because this organization is so sinister that it doesn't even exist. the fact that these organizations don't exist only makes it more suspicious that chuck hagel has been tied to them. what else is he hiding that hasn't happened? is he a member of the al qaeda kids club? what about the muslim brotherhood or the muslim sisterhood of the traveling pants? what are his ties to the dead poets society. and why are they dead? do they know too much about benghazi? president obama, you must withdraw hagel's nomination or you'll lose the support of every moderate republican, another group that doesn't exist. >> now, after all that brouhaha, it looks like hagel now has enough votes in the senate to get confirmed next week. next we west coast texan re
earlier this week we found out why some republicans thought were asking whether chuck hagel had ties to a secretive group called friends of hamas. what started as a sarcastic joke by a guy. it turned into a serious feature on a right wing website and then caught on from there. here's steve colbert. >> friends of hamas is even worse than it sound us because this organization is so sinister that it doesn't even exist. the fact that these organizations don't exist only makes it more...
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the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck hagel, a nightmare, by the way, whose flashbacks must haunt still the heart still of john sydney mccain. both are msnbc analysts. both of you, sir, and lady, are younger than me, but i must tell you i'm absolutely convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this. he did a long angry windup before he launched into his first so-called question which was really an indictment. it included putdowns as well as references to vietnam. let's listen. >> in january of 2007 in a rather bizarre exchange with secretary rice in the foreign relations co
the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck...
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thank you. >> let's talk start with hagel. by most accounts, chuck hagel had a shaky day at the confirmation hearing and surprising even some democrats with the answers and nonanswers. how do you think he did and do you ultimately expect he'll get confirmed? >> well, his presentation was spot on but that said i'm not always spot on when i do these interviews either. it's whether the substance was there or not and there's three important issues clear out of that hearing and why he'll go through the nomination process successfully. first, he said he will defend israel. second, iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. and third, he is leader to transform our military, both for moving from southwest asia to the western pacific where 60% of the naichl forces are moved for a reason and second to transform our military to the new type of warfare where often based upon knowledge and the agility and speed to touch someone quickly. this also is necessary in the western pacific where china, for example, has 80 sub marines just to our 50. even
thank you. >> let's talk start with hagel. by most accounts, chuck hagel had a shaky day at the confirmation hearing and surprising even some democrats with the answers and nonanswers. how do you think he did and do you ultimately expect he'll get confirmed? >> well, his presentation was spot on but that said i'm not always spot on when i do these interviews either. it's whether the substance was there or not and there's three important issues clear out of that hearing and why he'll...
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john mccain tried to humiliate nominee chuck hagel. and this is just the beginning. >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel. the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> but karma caught up with mccain quickly. about an hour after that, he berated hagel. here's how rand paul reacted to mccain's comments. let's listen. >> i find the argument spurious and really frankly absurd. >> on laura ingram's radio show, louisiana senator marco rubi on the emigration issue. >> i love and respect marco, i think he's amazingly naive. >> wow, in other words, he cares about hispanics. in a colossal put down, chris chistie hung the blame for post-sandy suffering squarely on republicans. >> there's only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims. the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. >> you know, joy, this was an old democratic problem. >> yes. >> it was called democrats in disarray. you could put it up on every newspaper, every evening news show. >> you
john mccain tried to humiliate nominee chuck hagel. and this is just the beginning. >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel. the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straight forward question. >> but karma caught up with mccain quickly. about an hour after that, he berated hagel. here's how rand paul reacted to mccain's comments. let's listen. >> i find the argument spurious and really frankly absurd. >> on laura ingram's radio show,...
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part of what hagel is arguing, not all wars are worth winning. we tend to discuss, as long as we won, that is fine, good enough. and his point is there is a cost, even to something that goes to that, as well. >> and he expresses it emotionally in the hearing, it is not just the fact that you can staunch the bleeding, it is the fact you need to treat the wound. and that is where hagel wanted to express he was coming from, there were some engagements that shouldn't be done. and we shouldn't think as view is, somebody should write us out of the main stream. >> you picked what hagel talked about, what he wants to do with the navy. it strikes me as important, as well. if you could play that. >> the navy is an indispensable part of our security apparatus. first it is the one unobjectable power we have in the world. obviously, our balances of the asia pacific, persian gulf, we talked all day about iran, specifically iran in the persian gulf. you know we have the fifth fleet, and bahrain, two little battle groups in that small area. the flexibility, the
part of what hagel is arguing, not all wars are worth winning. we tend to discuss, as long as we won, that is fine, good enough. and his point is there is a cost, even to something that goes to that, as well. >> and he expresses it emotionally in the hearing, it is not just the fact that you can staunch the bleeding, it is the fact you need to treat the wound. and that is where hagel wanted to express he was coming from, there were some engagements that shouldn't be done. and we shouldn't...
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senator lee bright is the problem for chuck hagel. he is the guy that is maybe going to give lindsey graham a primary chal epg, governor rendell. lindsay graham has been having meetings with the tea partiers, the club for growth. he is intent on solidifying the political base because he is worried about the next election, and if lindsey graham wasn't so worried, maybe there would be more bipartisanship in the upper chamber, and maybe all these legislative -- this kabuk eh dance would never happen brsh. >> that's a hard thinking to do anything about. we had a chance to do something about a procedure that is dysfunctional and basically flawed, and we democrats took a pass on it. i go back to that. we're responsible for this. as to glen's point, glen, i brae agree with you. this was an isolated incident. it's not that big a deal. it's playing out at the same time when you have the head of the nra absolutely delivering one of the most racial overtoned, insane -- >> screeds, i have seen. not one republican standing up and saying this guy i
senator lee bright is the problem for chuck hagel. he is the guy that is maybe going to give lindsey graham a primary chal epg, governor rendell. lindsay graham has been having meetings with the tea partiers, the club for growth. he is intent on solidifying the political base because he is worried about the next election, and if lindsey graham wasn't so worried, maybe there would be more bipartisanship in the upper chamber, and maybe all these legislative -- this kabuk eh dance would never...
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. >> finally, republicans admit the hold on the hagel confirmation has nothing to do with chuck hagel, but that doesn't mean senators john mccain and lindsey graham are backing off their benghazi coverup charade. we will look at the continuing saga of the hagel haggle next on "now." [ jackie ] it's just so frustrating... ♪ the middle of this special moment and i need to run off to the bathroom. ♪ i'm fed up with always having to put my bladder's needs ahead of my daughter. ♪ so today, i'm finally talking to my doctor about overactive bladder symptoms. [ female announcer ] know that gotta go feeling? ask your doctor about prescription toviaz. one toviaz pill a day significantly reduces sudden urges and accidents, for 24 hours. if you have certain stomach problems or glaucoma, or can not empty your bladder, you should not take toviaz. get emergency medical help right away if your face, lips, throat or tongue swells. toviaz can cause blurred vision, dizziness, drowsiness and decreased sweating. do not drive, operate machinery or do unsafe tasks until you know how toviaz affects you
. >> finally, republicans admit the hold on the hagel confirmation has nothing to do with chuck hagel, but that doesn't mean senators john mccain and lindsey graham are backing off their benghazi coverup charade. we will look at the continuing saga of the hagel haggle next on "now." [ jackie ] it's just so frustrating... ♪ the middle of this special moment and i need to run off to the bathroom. ♪ i'm fed up with always having to put my bladder's needs ahead of my daughter....
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bush, is really upset because chuck hagel compared w. with herbert hoover? you are republicans trying to subvert the foreign policy of the united states over an old and bitter grudge? let's bring in ari melber and democrat strategist julian ep sto epstein. what is senator mccain's problem? is he trying to defend a mode okur president bush or is he trying to defend a failed war in iraq? >> i think it's more iraq where we know senator mccain has long stood by our presence there and adding troops there, but bottom line if you take this as the mccain filibuster standard, then no one in any democratic administration ever gets a vote because, guess what? a lot of them have good faith and i think well-grounded disagreements with george w. bush. so this cannot be the standard. it's not defensible on its own terms and that's the problem. they are erecting a supermajority hurdle for all of this legislation and all of these nominees. this is an old problem from the way the republicans have been acting and it doesn't stand up because by this standard again you would not
bush, is really upset because chuck hagel compared w. with herbert hoover? you are republicans trying to subvert the foreign policy of the united states over an old and bitter grudge? let's bring in ari melber and democrat strategist julian ep sto epstein. what is senator mccain's problem? is he trying to defend a mode okur president bush or is he trying to defend a failed war in iraq? >> i think it's more iraq where we know senator mccain has long stood by our presence there and adding...
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were you wounded, senator hagel? >> finally, there was the nominee himself, who appeared to have prepared for the hearing by skimming a few briefing talking points on his cab right to the capital and who rather than defending some of hits comments on foreign policy, the importance of exhausting every chance of peace rather than leaping into the horrors of war, the dysfunctional congressional politics of israel/palestine, he seemed resign to glumly recant. >> name one person, in your opinion, who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> well, why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> do you agree it's a provocative statement? that i can't think of a more provocative thing to say about the relationship between the united states and israel and the senate or the congress than what you said. name one dumb thing we've had goetded into doing from the pressure of the valley or jewish lobby. >> i have already stated that i re
were you wounded, senator hagel? >> finally, there was the nominee himself, who appeared to have prepared for the hearing by skimming a few briefing talking points on his cab right to the capital and who rather than defending some of hits comments on foreign policy, the importance of exhausting every chance of peace rather than leaping into the horrors of war, the dysfunctional congressional politics of israel/palestine, he seemed resign to glumly recant. >> name one person, in your...
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the white house is counting on it working in the case of chuck hagel. the white house has been calling out republicans on this filibuster and you just hadden john mcsay a few minutes ago that we're going to get to a 51-vote sequester. the white house has had success so far -- but the signs are positive that hagel ultimately will be concerned, the question is how long and is there any possibility that hagel in the meechbt decides to step out and take himself out of the consideration, at least that's not what the white house wants. >> big picture here, though, john, our first read team says this is a reminder for all future legislative fights and nomination battles. we'll see over the next four years, let's stop pretending this will change any time soon. meaning this particular strategy is something we will see perhaps in fights over universal's background checks for guns. even the prek for all children as all legislation as we move forward with this congress and this president as a dynamic could end up like we're seeing now. >> that's correct, tamron, bu
the white house is counting on it working in the case of chuck hagel. the white house has been calling out republicans on this filibuster and you just hadden john mcsay a few minutes ago that we're going to get to a 51-vote sequester. the white house has had success so far -- but the signs are positive that hagel ultimately will be concerned, the question is how long and is there any possibility that hagel in the meechbt decides to step out and take himself out of the consideration, at least...
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he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of these nominations they're trying to basically make headlines over. and that's just fundamentally wrong. and i would advise republicans to remember, eventually they're going to get the white house back and they're not going to want to have this on the other side. they should treat all the nominees with the proper respect. they can question it and vote against them, but don't do this filibuster thing. >> is getting 60 votes in the senate going to be the standard moving forward? >> i don't think it will. you are seeing a movement to get away from that. they're not going to fundamentally filibuster, they're not going to stop chuck hagel. they're not going to block him, they'
he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of these nominations they're trying to basically make headlines over. and that's just fundamentally wrong. and i would advise...
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chuck hagel. congress is on break but that won't tamp down the noise. even though the same republicans bashing him admit he's still likely to get the job. border patrol, parts of the president's hidden plan on immigration leak out into one nation's newspaper, prompting republicans to fight before the real debate even gets started. and ten years later, what some key players are saying about the decision to topple saddam hussein in 2003. >> good morning, happy president's day in minneapolis. it's monday, february 18, 2013, and this is "the daily rundown." here's chuck todd. >> thanks, brad, and happy president's day to all of you. but remember, the federal government says this holiday is called washington's birthday, so get it right. let's get to my first reads of the morning. defense secretary nominee chuck hagel may have stepped forward forward -- sequestering of the filibuster that put the hagel vote off another week. >> john brennan, cia director, and chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we want
chuck hagel. congress is on break but that won't tamp down the noise. even though the same republicans bashing him admit he's still likely to get the job. border patrol, parts of the president's hidden plan on immigration leak out into one nation's newspaper, prompting republicans to fight before the real debate even gets started. and ten years later, what some key players are saying about the decision to topple saddam hussein in 2003. >> good morning, happy president's day in...
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why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not, but the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam, and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here is mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle here, and he wouldn't let go on the question of the iraq surge. again, what david said. let's listen again, back again to the old war. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? >> my -- >> yes or no. >> my referenc
why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still...
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they don't want to waste it on hagel. they'll save it for the budget issues. >>> the trivia question, how many states do not celebrate groundhog day? the answer is just one. it's alaska. you guys are going to love this. in 2009 then governor sarah palin signed a bill to make every february 2nd marmot day, there aren't that many groundhog in alaska, so why not do marmots. we'll be right back. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. >>> is there a disconnect between the way the public perceives the economy and what's really happening? today's jobs report shows the economy created 127,000 more jobs than originally thought in november and december. just the latest not a string of positive indicators that are pushing the dow
they don't want to waste it on hagel. they'll save it for the budget issues. >>> the trivia question, how many states do not celebrate groundhog day? the answer is just one. it's alaska. you guys are going to love this. in 2009 then governor sarah palin signed a bill to make every february 2nd marmot day, there aren't that many groundhog in alaska, so why not do marmots. we'll be right back. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven...
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we start with chuck hagel's rough day on capitol hill. lawmakers attacked the former senator and vietnam veteran in a contentious, nearly eight hour hearing over his nomination to become at the next u.s. defense secretary. the question was expected to be tough but he appeared uncomfortable, even unprepared. the most heated exchange of the day came from a former close friend, senator john mccain who grilled hagel on opposing the 2007 u.s. troop surge in iraq. >> wiere you correct or incorret when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to -- >> are you going to answer the question, senator hagel? the question is, were you right or wrong. that's a pretty straight forward question. >> well, i -- >> i would like the answer whether you're right or wrong and then you're free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> well, let the record show you refuse to answer that question. please go ahead.
we start with chuck hagel's rough day on capitol hill. lawmakers attacked the former senator and vietnam veteran in a contentious, nearly eight hour hearing over his nomination to become at the next u.s. defense secretary. the question was expected to be tough but he appeared uncomfortable, even unprepared. the most heated exchange of the day came from a former close friend, senator john mccain who grilled hagel on opposing the 2007 u.s. troop surge in iraq. >> wiere you correct or...
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so it's clearly not about hagel, it's about obama. you're absolutely right. >> and to drive the point further, he once shared similar views on issues with the president. but, now, he's flip-flopping, even though he's shared though views. so he wouldn't agree with the president anymore. he changed. he flip-flopped on tax cuts under president bush. mccain actually opposed tax cuts for the wealthiment but under president obama, he says those bush tax cuts should stay. on repealing don't ask, don't tell, under bush, mckaicain supported the repeal of don"don ask, don't tell". on the dream act, mccain sponsored three versions of the dream act urn president bush. but under president obama, he opposed the dream act. so all of this flip-flopping on things you used to agree with but anything the president is for, if his name is obama, you're against. this is very, very petty. >> and on global warming, remember, the mccain lieberman plan was a good plan and mccain december disallowed that when obama became president. >> no, there's no doubt abou
so it's clearly not about hagel, it's about obama. you're absolutely right. >> and to drive the point further, he once shared similar views on issues with the president. but, now, he's flip-flopping, even though he's shared though views. so he wouldn't agree with the president anymore. he changed. he flip-flopped on tax cuts under president bush. mccain actually opposed tax cuts for the wealthiment but under president obama, he says those bush tax cuts should stay. on repealing don't ask,...
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was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question. none of that is anything that the next secretary of defense is going to deal with. hold on. let's split this into two buckets. there was the totalally out of context questions that won't bear on what the next secretary of defense will do. he seemed unprepared on the questions that quite frankly he knew were coming. >> he had mock hearings. should he go to the president and say, do you still have confidence in me? >> i'm reminded through weeks into his first term of the obama administration. time geithner gives a speech at the treasury department about our banking industry and how to save it. three weeks into the administration. three weeks into his tenure. the market dropped 382 points. two weeks ago, tim geithner walked out of the trea
was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question. none of that is anything that the next secretary of defense is going to deal with. hold on. let's split this into two buckets. there was the totalally out of context questions that won't bear...
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one day after the joke, quote, secret hagel donor? white house spox ducks question on friends of hamas. so friends of hamas had spread and taken a turn for the serious. step three, others catch on. >> the problem with hagel is the people who he was giving the speeches for and the people who he's been colluding and aligning with over the years. there was a report that came out last week, not confirmed yet, but we're also not denying it very vigorously that one of the groups behind the speeches may have been an outfit called friends of hamas. >> let me bring up one piece of information that ben shapiro at breitbart put out today which is one of the foreign funders behind senator hagel that he has not disclosed formally is something called friends of hamas. if that is in fact true, senator, would that lead you to vote against mr. hagel? >> you know, i saw that information today also and that is more and more concerning. with each day there are new things coming out. >> they call it information not yet confirmed. all the while acting on i
one day after the joke, quote, secret hagel donor? white house spox ducks question on friends of hamas. so friends of hamas had spread and taken a turn for the serious. step three, others catch on. >> the problem with hagel is the people who he was giving the speeches for and the people who he's been colluding and aligning with over the years. there was a report that came out last week, not confirmed yet, but we're also not denying it very vigorously that one of the groups behind the...
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is this personal, this vendetta you're seeing today against chuck hagel? >> you know, i don't know if it's personal or not, but i think it is important for us to set a standard for the american people because we need to keep our comments civil. we need to be respectful because that then plays for the rest of the country. >> like you do, senator. thank you so much. jeanne shaheen of new hampshire. we have more reaction to the hearing now from peter beinart, editor of the daily beast. you're always interesting to watch. here is lindsey graham, one of the amigos you might say, not an amigo of hagel, also grilling the witness. listen to how he went after his past reference to, quote, the jewish lobby. let's watch. >> name one person in your opinion who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> well, why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> name one dumb thing we've been goaded into doing because of the pressure from the israeli or jewish lobby. >> i have alrea
is this personal, this vendetta you're seeing today against chuck hagel? >> you know, i don't know if it's personal or not, but i think it is important for us to set a standard for the american people because we need to keep our comments civil. we need to be respectful because that then plays for the rest of the country. >> like you do, senator. thank you so much. jeanne shaheen of new hampshire. we have more reaction to the hearing now from peter beinart, editor of the daily beast....
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there are 18 americans who will be given the medal. >>> plus, blocking hagel. the republicans have left the republican without his choice for defense secretary. that's next. and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. more "likes." more tweets. so, beginning today, my son brock and his whole team will be our new senior social media strategists. any questions? since we make radiator valves wouldn't it be better if we just let fedex help us to expand to new markets? hmm gotta admit that's better than a few "likes." i don't have the door code. who's that? he won a contest online to be ceo for the day. how am i supposed to run a business here
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hagel is at the center of it, but it's about much more than just chuck hagel. andrea. >> let me just interject also, kelly, that there is an issue here. the defense ministers meet at nato next week in brussels. they want chuck hagel, the administration wants chuck hagel, the new defense secretary to be leading this going forward. they don't want to have to ask leon panetta, who is still the defense secretary, to go and lead the delegation as a lame-duck. chris, this gets to entrance, and that's why, among other reasons, the white house is so frustrated, and those who have been raising these benghazi issues are really holding the white house hostage on when did the president call and was he up all night? those are the kinds of questions they've been asking. hagel had nothing to do with benghazi. >> absolutely true, andrea, but i would say, look, this is -- kelly used the phrase leverage point, and whether you like it or not, that's what republicans view this as. i would say that the white house has two very clear choices. they either say okay, we will give until
hagel is at the center of it, but it's about much more than just chuck hagel. andrea. >> let me just interject also, kelly, that there is an issue here. the defense ministers meet at nato next week in brussels. they want chuck hagel, the administration wants chuck hagel, the new defense secretary to be leading this going forward. they don't want to have to ask leon panetta, who is still the defense secretary, to go and lead the delegation as a lame-duck. chris, this gets to entrance, and...
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let's start with the chuck hagel filibuster situation. senator mitch mcconnell said, i think the president is entitled to an up or down. that is simple majority vote on nominations, both to his cabinet and to the executive branch and also to the judiciary, clearly the republicans have somewhat changed their tune on the that. but if we do see, as we're seeing now, a sort of filibuster on nominees is this going to be the new normal now in washington? >> the consistency is not a virtue any longer, but what i'm surprised about with respect to the senate actions here, i serve there had the last 189 years, left two years ago, i served with chuck hagel, he served there 12 years and i'm very surprised that people who served with him in his own caucus, he caucused with them every week, they know him as a squad leader and infantry man who was twice wounded, he has two purple hearts by the way. they're suggesting somehow he's unworthy? it's unbelievable to me, every time you think this is sort of the nth degree of gridlock, i hope you dpind enough r
let's start with the chuck hagel filibuster situation. senator mitch mcconnell said, i think the president is entitled to an up or down. that is simple majority vote on nominations, both to his cabinet and to the executive branch and also to the judiciary, clearly the republicans have somewhat changed their tune on the that. but if we do see, as we're seeing now, a sort of filibuster on nominees is this going to be the new normal now in washington? >> the consistency is not a virtue any...
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right now, chuck hagel in limbo. >> okay. are you right to milwaukee a distinction, we don't have a new secretary of defense. leon pan 80 is not going anywhere until this is over. >> no, no. very active. >> and here is the reaction by harry reid to the filibuster. let's listen. >> the filibuster of senator hag hagel's nomination is unprecedenced. i repeat never in the history of our country has a secretary of defense nominee been filibustered. never, ever. >> has this ever happened before? anything similar? or are we talking about the details to secretary of defense nominees? >> it is unpress denned for a secretary of defense nominee. the closest example to a cabinet-level position being filibustered or attempted to be filibustered is steven johnson, epa secretary under president bush. some tried to filibuster him, they couldn't get enough votes. that wasn't technically a cabinet-level position or an actual cabinet position this is actually the first time that a cabinet secretary has been filibustered, and republicans don't w
right now, chuck hagel in limbo. >> okay. are you right to milwaukee a distinction, we don't have a new secretary of defense. leon pan 80 is not going anywhere until this is over. >> no, no. very active. >> and here is the reaction by harry reid to the filibuster. let's listen. >> the filibuster of senator hag hagel's nomination is unprecedenced. i repeat never in the history of our country has a secretary of defense nominee been filibustered. never, ever. >> has...
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i'm talking a about the delayed vote of chuck hagel to take over. joining me on the phone is bob franken. >> good morning. >> how did a minority in the senate succeed in pushing back this vote on hagel? >> as you know, the senate is in effect goffer earned by the minority. so, the minority can always exert its will, that's exactly what's happening here. number one. number two, the republicans right now are looking for some revenge. they got beaten in the election. you have barack obama the president out there basically tap-dancing on them. being more assertive. this is the way for the republicans to say we're not going to be pat. >> could they be wrong about that, might this ultimately threaten the confirmation? >> this is going to be based on impressions of washington. i think there's a view if something is stalled it's not going to up then it's going down and the break that's coming up with the senate is a long time, if there's anything about hagel that might come out damaging to him this is the time. the senate for years has run the charade of co
i'm talking a about the delayed vote of chuck hagel to take over. joining me on the phone is bob franken. >> good morning. >> how did a minority in the senate succeed in pushing back this vote on hagel? >> as you know, the senate is in effect goffer earned by the minority. so, the minority can always exert its will, that's exactly what's happening here. number one. number two, the republicans right now are looking for some revenge. they got beaten in the election. you have...
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do i care if chuck hagel is running the pentagon? as far as i can tell, no one has done much in congress to sort of sort that out. >> and the one thing that job, is a policymaker. that is not the person who decides whether we go to war but takes the orders from the white house about how to implement it. that is not the person who decides what our relationship is with any other foreign country. those issues belong in other jobs. that's what they made the whole hearing about. >> no, absolutely. and even their fixation on benghazi is located in state. they went after hillary clinton -- >> 100%. >> that has nothing to do with this job either. at the end of the day i started out says, confirm chuck hagel. he was an enlisted man, fought in vietnam. i'm saying, i don't know why i support him because it hasn't been about him at all. >> joy reed and chris hayes. thank you for joining me tonight. >>> coming up, wane lapierre, i'll be joined in rebuttal, by someone who is on the nra's enemy list. >>> and in the "rewrite tonight" if there was no
do i care if chuck hagel is running the pentagon? as far as i can tell, no one has done much in congress to sort of sort that out. >> and the one thing that job, is a policymaker. that is not the person who decides whether we go to war but takes the orders from the white house about how to implement it. that is not the person who decides what our relationship is with any other foreign country. those issues belong in other jobs. that's what they made the whole hearing about. >> no,...
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hagel and our first team, they write today, quote, the extra weak after filibustering senator hagel only a bogus group of friends of hamas never existed. do you feel that there are now serious exposures of why the right was wary of chuck hagel? he's making his way through but he's going to be a bloodied defense secretary. when the administration folks had to send him notes as he was testifying to tell him what the position is, i think it's very damning and i talked to democrats very concerned about his nomination as well but is going to vote for him because he's the president's nominee. he's been wrong on iran, i believe, when he imposed sanctions. he was only one of two senators to do that. we now have korea, north korea in developing a missile. their goal is top send nuclear weapons into the united states to hit us on our own homeland and yet he talks about unilaterally disarming ourself as a nation in term of our nuclear arms. i believe he is the wrong choice and those are just some of the reasons but i think he is not qualified to be secretary of defense. >> again, presuming that he
hagel and our first team, they write today, quote, the extra weak after filibustering senator hagel only a bogus group of friends of hamas never existed. do you feel that there are now serious exposures of why the right was wary of chuck hagel? he's making his way through but he's going to be a bloodied defense secretary. when the administration folks had to send him notes as he was testifying to tell him what the position is, i think it's very damning and i talked to democrats very concerned...
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. >> hagel's frenemies. he gets roughed up by his former colleagues in the senate. >> i have already stated that i regret the terminology. i should have said recognized instead of legitimate. if i had an opportunity to edit like, it like many things i've said, i would like to go back and change the words and the meaning. >> will he be weakened even if he is confirmed? and final act, for now at least. it's hillary clinton's last day at the state department. >> so these last days have been bittersweet for me. but this opportunity that i have here before you gives me some time to reflect on the distance that weave traveled and to take stock of what we've done and what is left to do. >> and as she leaves the state department this afternoon, john kerry will arrive to be sworn in by justice alina keggen, and nor sentimental sendoff. 30 rock ends its seven-year run with lots of laughs and familiar faces. >> looked like another cold one in the midwest. >> bundle up, everyone. if you can, get hit by a car. >> accordi
. >> hagel's frenemies. he gets roughed up by his former colleagues in the senate. >> i have already stated that i regret the terminology. i should have said recognized instead of legitimate. if i had an opportunity to edit like, it like many things i've said, i would like to go back and change the words and the meaning. >> will he be weakened even if he is confirmed? and final act, for now at least. it's hillary clinton's last day at the state department. >> so these...
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hagel was sworn in at a private ceremony after an unusually tough confirmation fight, which ended in a 58-41 vote. hagel overcame a republican-led filibuster by members of his own party who never forgave his criticism of the iraq war. let me bring in republican strategist and former santorum senior strategist and nbc col n columnist and contributing editor for the hill. good morning. he has to confront a staggering $46 billion in cuts to military spending which are set to begin tomorrow. he's got his work cut out for him. >> he really does. part of the reason the president selected chuck hagel was knowing going forward the defense department would have to undergo cuts anyhow. obviously the sequester makes that a lot tougher process because it is, you know, these cuts are much less strategic obviously than what we would have preferred. he also comes in after having a tough few weeks, a little bloodied i think and some of that was intended not so much to go after hagel but to try to go after the president and, thankfully, they were unsuccessful and hagel will start the job and roll up
hagel was sworn in at a private ceremony after an unusually tough confirmation fight, which ended in a 58-41 vote. hagel overcame a republican-led filibuster by members of his own party who never forgave his criticism of the iraq war. let me bring in republican strategist and former santorum senior strategist and nbc col n columnist and contributing editor for the hill. good morning. he has to confront a staggering $46 billion in cuts to military spending which are set to begin tomorrow. he's...
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and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening six years, you would think we had 150,000 troops parked right now in iraq. this next defense secretary is not going to deal with iraq and the surge. this was a vanity thing for john mccain to try to prove to a former friend who disagreed with him that he was right on the surge and that chuck hagel was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question.
and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening...
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do you stand by that -- those comments, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. >> the committee can deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments. >> i want to know if you're right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> well, if you would like me to explain why. >> i actually would like an answer, yes, or no. >> well, i'm not going give you a yes or no. i think it's far more complicated than that. and as i already said, i'll defer that judgment to history. as to the comment i made about the most dangerous foreign policy decision since vietnam was about not just the surge, but the overall war of choice going into iraq. >> ah. not just about the surge, it was about the overall war of choice going into iraq. right. so is john mccain trying to relitigate that? the overall war of choice going
do you stand by that -- those comments, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. >> the committee can deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments. >> i want to know if you're right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct...